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		<title>Observations Concerning the April 9th Proposed Trail Ridge Contract Hearing</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 02:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>curtis</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Competitive Bidding]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Concerned Taxpayers of Duval County board member Phil Laibe made the following comments about the April 9th City Council hearing on the proposed Trail Ridge contract.  His comments are his own and do not reflect the opinions of Concerned Taxpayers of Duval County. Although I didn&#8217;t have a chance to speak at yesterday&#8217;s meeting, I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Concerned Taxpayers of Duval County board member Phil Laibe made the following comments about the April 9th City Council hearing on the proposed Trail Ridge contract.  His comments are his own and do not reflect the opinions of Concerned Taxpayers of Duval County.</p>
<div><em>Although I didn&#8217;t  have a chance to speak at yesterday&#8217;s meeting, I am glad I was there as I found  it very informative. Most of the meeting consisted of a PowerPoint presentation  given by Ebenezer Gujjarlapudi and questions being asked by City Council members of  him, the city auditor and a representative of our office of General Counsel. The  reason I didn&#8217;t speak is that by 5pm when I had to leave only one citizen had  the chance for public comment (not counting lawyers).  There will be a  continuation of this hearing on April 23rd.</em></div>
<div><em>Some interesting  things that came out at this meeting:</em></div>
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<li><em>Not only a garbage    engineer but also the city auditor said that the idea that if another company    wins the bid for servicing the landfill there will be a large V shaped area    that is not used is false.</em></li>
<li><em>Councilman Davis    asked the Republic CEO and lawyer if they promise they can beat the negotiated    contract and they say they can.</em></li>
<li><em>Republic estimates    that Trail Ridge is currently running at a 50% profit margin and that the    negotiated contract will end-up being a 40% profit margin with the industry    standard being 20% profit margin.</em></li>
<li><em>A councilman (I    think it was Joost but don&#8217;t quote me on that) asked the Republic    representative to get into their profit margins for landfills that they run in    other states.</em></li>
<li><em>After being grilled    by members of the City Council, the Republic representative said that it seemed like he    was going through the bidding process right at the podium and the whole room    laughed.</em></li>
<li><em>Councilman Davis    then realized that he was making himself appear to be partisan and then    apologized to the Republic representatives and tried to say that this is a very important    issue and he needs all the facts.</em></li>
<li><em>Councilman Davis    suggested that representatives from Republic be put under oath for public    comment during the next meeting and asked Republic to pay the city&#8217;s legal    fees if WM sues the city.</em></li>
<li><em>Our fair city has    tried this before and in the case of Mid American Waste systems vs. the city    of Jacksonville it was decided by a court of law that the city MUST bid    the contract due to state law and does not even have the right to    negotiate the contract. The city&#8217;s general council disagrees with this and    feels that the city does have the right to negotiate.</em></li>
<li><em>The state statute that states that bidding is the rule is statute 287.001</em></li>
<li><em>Waste Management is    a very litigious company that has been in and still is in legal    battles with the city.</em></li>
<li><em>The current CEO of    Republic was working for WM at the time of the signing of the 1991    contract.</em></li>
<li><em>Per the garbage    engineer, there is no such thing as air rights over a landfill. The city owns    everything.</em></li>
<li><em>All over the    country, there are adjoining landfills operated by different companies    (apparently due to mergers and divestitures this is somewhat common) and there    have been no lawsuits.</em></li>
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<div><em>Personally, after  what I heard during this meeting, I actually hope that another company wins the bid as  WM is a very litigious company. I feel that if we continue to do business with  Waste Management there will be continued litigation irregardless of a contract  negotiated or otherwise. I had a good time at my first media circus. There were  WM employees with green T-shirts and young democrats with white  bidthelandfill.org t-shirts and large banners were strung up in the  adjacent park. I found it very entertaining to watch Councilman Davis and  Councilwoman Lee get into an argument. At one point they went back and forth  saying &#8220;I have the floor&#8221; &#8221;no, I have the floor&#8221; multiple times. From  what I understand the next meeting will be at a later time so hopefully some  more of us will be able to make this meeting.</em></div>
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		<title>What Do You Mean You Want To Break Up?!  We Are Such A Great Team!</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 03:14:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>curtis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Waste Management, Inc. has recently fired its latest salvo over the proposed $750 million Trail Ridge landfill contract by placing an advertisement in Sunday&#8217;s Florida Times Union newspaper. It promises the taxpayers of Duval County a cost savings of $250 million over the current contract if they allow Waste Management to continue to run the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waste Management, Inc. has recently fired its latest salvo over the proposed $750 million Trail Ridge landfill contract by placing an advertisement in Sunday&#8217;s Florida Times Union newspaper.  It promises the taxpayers of Duval County a cost savings of $250 million over the current contract if they allow Waste Management to continue to run the landfill site.  It makes other promises such as recycling, efficient solid waste disposal technology and no closure and post closure expenses for the city.   Finally, it emphasizes what a great partnership the city of Jacksonville has had with Waste Management.  Wow, this sounds so good that it gets one thinking that the landfill contract does not need to be competitively bidded after all!</p>
<p>Not so fast.  It is like marrying the first girl you fall in love with.  Sure, it could turn out great, but why not shop around before you take the plunge?  In medical science, scientists run clinical trials to verify if a drug really can cure the disease that it claims to cure.  So the drug company says that the drug reduces the symptoms of the disease by 50%.  Should we immediately start using the drug?  Not exactly.  You first ask if there was a control group.  This control group has the same disease and is similar to the group receiving the drug, but does not get the drug.  If the control group also sees a reduction in the symptoms of the disease of 50%, then we know that the drug is no more effective than letting the disease takes its natural course.</p>
<p>What does this have to do with the proposed landfill contract?  When you bid the contract, each company submitting a bid is a control group for other bidders.  Sure, $250 million sounds great.  But could it be matched by other waste management companies?  We will never know until we bid the contract.</p>
<p>Also, in the advertisement, Waste Management would seem to be our friend by taking us aside and asking us if this really is a good time to risk litigation costs and permitting delays.  You would think that Waste Management is doing us a favor by helping us to avoid all of those headaches.  What a pal!</p>
<p>I guess that this is the part that perturbs me the most.  Waste Management is using the carrot and stick approach.  Sweeten the pot with the carrot of $250 million of cost savings, but swing around the stick of litigation at the same time.  Both the city and Waste Management are pursuing risk adverse courses.  Waste Management avoids litigation that they are likely to lose according to <a href="http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/2009-02-22/story/law_professor_its_language_is_in_the_citys_legal_favor">Florida Coastal School of Law professor Cleveland Ferguson</a> and the city&#8217;s General Counsel and also avoids the possibility of losing the contract through competitive bidding.  The city avoids the cost of litigation and the possibility of running out of landfill space due to possible injunctions against bidding the landfill to any other company while the litigation is taking place.</p>
<p>The big loser in all of this is the competitive bidding process.  The bidding process not only protects the taxpayer by assuring that city services are provided in the most cost efficient manner possible.  But it also ensures that government contracts are not awarded to companies that have the best connections within city government.  Using fair and transparent competitive bidding avoids government corruption and ensures fairness in the awarding of government contracts.  Bid the contract!</p>
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